Post by Brackenleaf on Feb 27, 2017 23:20:14 GMT -5
Something I’ve wanted to do for a while was to keep a progress log, just in case anyone was wondering exactly what I’ve updated. When I research prices, … I do it the old fashioned way. Pen and paper. To be more specific … a spiral bound notebook, and a pen. I learned over time to try to keep things organized to make typing it up a whole lot easier. =) If the guild has less than 6 pages, I just start with page 1. I jot down every little thing, no matter what it is. I try to create sections on my paper for Provisioning, Alchemy, Enchanting, Style mats, etc. Even Motifs gets a reserved section of the paper. If I overflow a section with my notes, I create a whole new section for “part 2”. Sets are the hardest to keep together on paper because there are more than 30 sets in the game and more than 10 traits, which means there is a miriad of combinations. In the bigger guilds, its possible to have a dozen or more pages devoted to just set pieces for that guild. If its a larger guild, I try to focus on whatever is most important at that time … upgrade mats, motifs, style and trait mats, etc. Certain events affect prices of particular items. When the game has a huge change, I try to shift my focus on specific item prices. I try to keep the price list current (within a week) but real life happens.
The following log has the most current dates on top to show the most recent activity. When I type, I use Google Documents and type whatever I wrote, and figure it out later. =) After typing, I use a calculator and convert bulk prices to single prices. After calculating, I format everything so that it speeds up the process (html, punctuation, upper and lower case font, font size and style, etc). After formatting, all I have to do is copy and paste (move) my typed notes onto the website. I have it set up to indicate date, lowest price I saw on that trader, any middle prices, the highest price found, and then the name of the guild. When something is pasted to the website, I color it neon pink (on Google Documents), to indicate to myself that its done, just in case I have to walk away from it and return later. If its colored blue, that means I’m not done typing up that section. When I finished typing it up, I will change the font color to basic black, and then can format it.
2017-0818: Spent a few hours typing up my notes from the past couple of days. Added some SOLD PRICES from a couple of guilds. Since Rawlkha Squad is closing down soon, and they haven't had a trader in a couple of weeks, there wasn't much found on their "Purchased" history.
2017-0815: I started documenting confirmed SOLD PRICES for the guilds I belong to, by jotting down everything in a guild's "purchased" history. There are 2 reasons why this isn't a reliable way to research items: 1) Under-priced items will mislead the reader, and 2) Set names aren't listed properly (ex: Night Mother's "Embrace" vs Night Mother's "Gaze", Shalk's "Carapace" vs Shalk's "Exoskeleton" ... and then there's "Blessed Armor", which the average reader doesn't realize is actually Meridia's "Blessing"). The under-priced items will also affect the average prices, so this method isn't reliable to figure out the "averages". However, ... it IS a FASTER way of pricing. I don't have to worry about an NPC walking away from me, which closes the interface and causes me to start over from scratch. All item "colors" are shown. And the prices are the actual SOLD prices, confirmed, and not just listed by people guessing at what to ask or being overly optimistic about high prices. I filled up 2 notebook pages of notes from one guild, and it only took me 2 hrs. I typed it up this past evening, formatted and organized it, and got it on the website. Not too shabby! Very fast method! ^_^
2017-0623: Worked on one of the older pieces (InfiniteLove) from 2/15/17 which needed some calculating for the mats. Added the info to the website and now its done. I also added mat prices from Prisoners from 2/18 and now that one is done too.
2017-0622: Did some non-price list tweaking by adding a link for our Band page to our welcome message. Finished adding info from The Honorable East Empire to the website. Added info from Unrest from 4/22 (trying to get caught up with some older data I didn't get to in time.)
2017-0621: Added Set info from The Honorable East Empire to the website. Took a while because at the same time I was GRADUALLY adding lines of dots to further separate the guild name from the price, for easier reading and uniformity.
2017-0620: Finished typing the rest of the info from The Honorable East Empire, and formatted the info gathered for Sets. Added 1st half of the info from The Honorable East Empire to the website.
2017-0619: Typed half of the data collected from The Honorable East Empire from 5/30/17.
2017-0618: Added calculated individual prices of mats and foods from Oblivion Syndicate and The Kings Trading Company to the website.
2017-0617: Calculated individual prices for Oblivion Syndicate and The Kings Trading Company.
2017-0612: Its been a busy week! Morrowind Raffle, gardening irl, family stuff irl, and the huge Morrowind update. Now I can finally catch up on the price list. Today I added info from Blood Knights of eSo, and half of my notes from The Kings Trading Company.
2017-0611: I am pleased to announce I will FINALLY be able to get some much needed assistance with the price list, and they will also be a global moderator here on our website as well. More details after a tutorial period. I don't want to rush her. =)
2017-0602: Typed up the rest of the info I got from Blood Knights of eSo, and formatted it, including a BAZILLION sets! Still need to calculate bulk prices for the mats.
2017-0601: Typed up half the info I got from Blood Knights of eSo.
2017-0531: Spent 7 hrs typing up all the notes I have for Oblivion Syndicate (5/21), and The Kings Trading Company (5/24) before quitting at 6am.
2017-0530: I spent most of the afternoon and early evening going through some of my screenshots of the things I listed and sold …. At least going back one month. I still have 5 months worth on there. And another 4-5 months of screenshots on my other account to go through. I admit, I procrastinate a LOT on this since its VERY time consuming sifting through a bazillion screenshots of listings and only a smattering of actual confirmed sales that MATCH those listings. I need them to match so I can see the listing price, quantity, and the guild name. Going backwards doesn’t help. =(
2017-0529: Visited with the trader for Blood Knights of eSo. Got LOTS of info for sets.
2017-0524: Unfortunately Oblivion Syndicate is no longer at the same trader in Riften, so I cannot finish with their price info. =( Got what I could though! I moved on to the trader for The Kings Trading Company in Riften.
2017-0521: Gathered some price data from Oblivion Syndicate in Riften, but wasn’t able to get much done before I had to help a member of our guild. Nobody else was available to make him new gear or help him with a quest.
2017-0510: Able to type more notes, but the wireless at this hotel is slow as molasses. Uploads to the Price List will have to wait.
2017-0507: On vacation at the moment. The hotel’s internet is a bit unreliable and disconnects often, so all I can do is type my notes and update this log.
2017-0425: It took all evening and most of the night, but I updated the Price List's Motif page with info from Saucy Felines and Empire Exchange.
2017-0425: I just spent the past 5 hours typing up and formatting my notes from Empire Exchange and Saucy Felines, and another 3 hours updating the Motif section of the price list with info from Unrest. I also added Empire Exchange and Saucy Felines to the list of credits. I am human and do need to sleep sometimes, so adding the other 2 to the Motif section will have to wait. =)
2017-0424: It took most of the afternoon to type up and format my notes from Unrest.
2017-0423: 3rd night spent gathering price data from Unrest’s trader in Wayrest, and visited with the Empire Exchange’s trader in Windhelm, and Saucy Feline’s trader in Lionguard Redoubt in Glenumbra. About to go on vacation for a week. I won’t be on Xbox at all and internet can’t be predicted.
2017-0423: It took about 2 more hours to finish jotting down notes from Unrest's "motifs" on their trader. I had enough time to my night to visit 2 more traders belonging to Empire Exchange and Saucy Felines, which, thankfully, had less than 4 pages each. LOL
2017-0422: Last night I spent some quality time looking at more than 5 pages of Motifs on Unrest's trader in Wayrest. I continued this morning and covered ANOTHER 5 pages. WOW!!! Talk about time consuming!!!! And I'm STILL not done with it! I'm about to log in and TRY to finish with it before midnight. I've just reached the 30k motifs on their list. I'm SURE there's another few pages to go. I spent this afternoon typing up what I have so far, and TOMORROW I will put my info on the website. I was going to do it tonight, but I don't want to waste time doing that when I could be spending that time gathering data. I also spent time updating the mat categories with info from Ancient Tree from 4/3/17.
2017-0415: Finished updating Sets, and Woodworking Blueprints (Home Sweet Home) with info from Ancient Tree.
2017-0413: Updated Sets with info from Ancient Tree ..... up to Swamp Raider (blue) before having to quit for the night due to eye strain. Will continue tomorrow.
2017-0410: Spent most of the night typing up the rest of Sets from Ancient Tree. I finally quit when it was done and I couldn't see anymore.
2017-0409: Spent a few hours typing up some info on Sets from Ancient Tree. It was a bit time consuming because of breaking it down into colors, traits, and formatting for the website to make it easy for people to understand and keep it from being too "busy" looking.
2017-0408: Uploaded info from Ancient Tree to Furnishings (not plans).
2017-0407: Updated price list with Motif, Provisioning, and Homestead info from Sudden Impulse and Ancient Tree. More to follow in the next couple of days including mats (as soon as I can spend quality time converting bulk prices to single) and especially Sets.
2017-0406: Typed up only half the notes from Sudden Impulse, gathered 4/4 because I wanted to get the Motifs and most of the Homestead Plans on the website ASAP. Still needs conversion from bulk to single prices.
2017-0405: Typed up most of the info from Ancient Tree, gathered on 4/3, except for Sets, which is an overwhelming amount and will take DAYS to type up.
2017-0327: Typed up some notes from 3 guilds from this past week. Calculated bulk prices to reflect single prices. Formatted it to transfer to website. Updated with info from BD Crowns Trading Co, and The Riverwood Traders, from 3/23/17.
2017-0322: Had some real life stuff going on, but I'm back. =) Updated Home Sweet Home with more plans info from Aldmeri Trade Union. Also added a bunch of furnishing ITEM prices from Aldmeri Trade Union, which allowed me to start the format coding for additional info. =) Updated the high end mats and Provisioning with info from OG Players from 2/15 (sorry I didn't get that on sooner). Added Aldmeri Trade Union and OG Players to the list of credits, and added Home Sweet Home to the list of contents on Intro page.
2017-0309: Created a new thread for the new Homestead stuff (new mats, plans, and furnishings). Added info from Elder Scrolls Finest. Also updated Provisioning with info from Elder Scrolls Finest. Also added info from Oblivion Syndicate, to Home Furnishings and Provisioning.
2017-0308: Typed up data collected on 3/7, from 2 guild traders. I focused on the new Homestead mats, plans, and SOME other important prices such as Psijiic Ambrosia stuff.
2017-0227: Added RECENT Motif info from Wincorp, Prisoners, InfiniteLove, OG Players and Secret Sauce from this past week. Updated Provisioning high end stuff with info from Prisoners. Updated Nirncrux (Trait mats) with info from Prisoners.
2017-0226: Right before midnight, after ESO crashed for the 2nd night in a row, I broke my hiatus to add motifs from Wincorp.
2017-0219: In the wee hours, gathered a LOT of data from Wincorp’s trader. Especially a TON of motifs! Typed and formatted Motif info.
2017-0218: Gathered data from Prisoners in Belkarth, Craglorn. In the evening, typed HALF of those notes. Still needs calculating. Need to take a break. Will log in the game to gather data from another trader or two.
2017-0217: Typed notes for Stormborn Wyverns, OG Players and InfiniteLove (all from 2/15/17).
2017-0216: Finished calculating single prices and finished adding all of Warriors Trading Co to website. Calculated half of notes into single prices for The Jokers (from 2/7/17). Updated Misc, Alch, Wood, and Clothing on website.
2017-0215: Calculated single prices for Warriors Trading Co and prepared notes to add to website.
2017-0214: Typed notes from Warriors Trading Co (from 2/9/17)
2017-0210: Typed and formatted Set info from The Jokers (from 2/7/17). Not uploaded yet.
2017-0209: Updated Motifs and a few high end items with info from Warriors Trading Co (from 2/9/17)
2017-0208: Updated Motifs and a few high end items with info from The Jokers (from 2/7/17)
2017-0203: Updated with "Personally Sold" data, and info from Kings Armory and Venerable Order of the Dr
2017-0202: Updated with info from Applesauce and Wicked Obsession
2017-0201: Updated with info from Wicked Obsession
2017-0119: Updated with info from Lords of Gallifrey, BAWs, and Old Man Meta. Removed Christmas clipart.
The following log has the most current dates on top to show the most recent activity. When I type, I use Google Documents and type whatever I wrote, and figure it out later. =) After typing, I use a calculator and convert bulk prices to single prices. After calculating, I format everything so that it speeds up the process (html, punctuation, upper and lower case font, font size and style, etc). After formatting, all I have to do is copy and paste (move) my typed notes onto the website. I have it set up to indicate date, lowest price I saw on that trader, any middle prices, the highest price found, and then the name of the guild. When something is pasted to the website, I color it neon pink (on Google Documents), to indicate to myself that its done, just in case I have to walk away from it and return later. If its colored blue, that means I’m not done typing up that section. When I finished typing it up, I will change the font color to basic black, and then can format it.
2017-0818: Spent a few hours typing up my notes from the past couple of days. Added some SOLD PRICES from a couple of guilds. Since Rawlkha Squad is closing down soon, and they haven't had a trader in a couple of weeks, there wasn't much found on their "Purchased" history.
2017-0815: I started documenting confirmed SOLD PRICES for the guilds I belong to, by jotting down everything in a guild's "purchased" history. There are 2 reasons why this isn't a reliable way to research items: 1) Under-priced items will mislead the reader, and 2) Set names aren't listed properly (ex: Night Mother's "Embrace" vs Night Mother's "Gaze", Shalk's "Carapace" vs Shalk's "Exoskeleton" ... and then there's "Blessed Armor", which the average reader doesn't realize is actually Meridia's "Blessing"). The under-priced items will also affect the average prices, so this method isn't reliable to figure out the "averages". However, ... it IS a FASTER way of pricing. I don't have to worry about an NPC walking away from me, which closes the interface and causes me to start over from scratch. All item "colors" are shown. And the prices are the actual SOLD prices, confirmed, and not just listed by people guessing at what to ask or being overly optimistic about high prices. I filled up 2 notebook pages of notes from one guild, and it only took me 2 hrs. I typed it up this past evening, formatted and organized it, and got it on the website. Not too shabby! Very fast method! ^_^
2017-0623: Worked on one of the older pieces (InfiniteLove) from 2/15/17 which needed some calculating for the mats. Added the info to the website and now its done. I also added mat prices from Prisoners from 2/18 and now that one is done too.
2017-0622: Did some non-price list tweaking by adding a link for our Band page to our welcome message. Finished adding info from The Honorable East Empire to the website. Added info from Unrest from 4/22 (trying to get caught up with some older data I didn't get to in time.)
2017-0621: Added Set info from The Honorable East Empire to the website. Took a while because at the same time I was GRADUALLY adding lines of dots to further separate the guild name from the price, for easier reading and uniformity.
2017-0620: Finished typing the rest of the info from The Honorable East Empire, and formatted the info gathered for Sets. Added 1st half of the info from The Honorable East Empire to the website.
2017-0619: Typed half of the data collected from The Honorable East Empire from 5/30/17.
2017-0618: Added calculated individual prices of mats and foods from Oblivion Syndicate and The Kings Trading Company to the website.
2017-0617: Calculated individual prices for Oblivion Syndicate and The Kings Trading Company.
2017-0612: Its been a busy week! Morrowind Raffle, gardening irl, family stuff irl, and the huge Morrowind update. Now I can finally catch up on the price list. Today I added info from Blood Knights of eSo, and half of my notes from The Kings Trading Company.
2017-0611: I am pleased to announce I will FINALLY be able to get some much needed assistance with the price list, and they will also be a global moderator here on our website as well. More details after a tutorial period. I don't want to rush her. =)
2017-0602: Typed up the rest of the info I got from Blood Knights of eSo, and formatted it, including a BAZILLION sets! Still need to calculate bulk prices for the mats.
2017-0601: Typed up half the info I got from Blood Knights of eSo.
2017-0531: Spent 7 hrs typing up all the notes I have for Oblivion Syndicate (5/21), and The Kings Trading Company (5/24) before quitting at 6am.
2017-0530: I spent most of the afternoon and early evening going through some of my screenshots of the things I listed and sold …. At least going back one month. I still have 5 months worth on there. And another 4-5 months of screenshots on my other account to go through. I admit, I procrastinate a LOT on this since its VERY time consuming sifting through a bazillion screenshots of listings and only a smattering of actual confirmed sales that MATCH those listings. I need them to match so I can see the listing price, quantity, and the guild name. Going backwards doesn’t help. =(
2017-0529: Visited with the trader for Blood Knights of eSo. Got LOTS of info for sets.
2017-0524: Unfortunately Oblivion Syndicate is no longer at the same trader in Riften, so I cannot finish with their price info. =( Got what I could though! I moved on to the trader for The Kings Trading Company in Riften.
2017-0521: Gathered some price data from Oblivion Syndicate in Riften, but wasn’t able to get much done before I had to help a member of our guild. Nobody else was available to make him new gear or help him with a quest.
2017-0510: Able to type more notes, but the wireless at this hotel is slow as molasses. Uploads to the Price List will have to wait.
2017-0507: On vacation at the moment. The hotel’s internet is a bit unreliable and disconnects often, so all I can do is type my notes and update this log.
2017-0425: It took all evening and most of the night, but I updated the Price List's Motif page with info from Saucy Felines and Empire Exchange.
2017-0425: I just spent the past 5 hours typing up and formatting my notes from Empire Exchange and Saucy Felines, and another 3 hours updating the Motif section of the price list with info from Unrest. I also added Empire Exchange and Saucy Felines to the list of credits. I am human and do need to sleep sometimes, so adding the other 2 to the Motif section will have to wait. =)
2017-0424: It took most of the afternoon to type up and format my notes from Unrest.
2017-0423: 3rd night spent gathering price data from Unrest’s trader in Wayrest, and visited with the Empire Exchange’s trader in Windhelm, and Saucy Feline’s trader in Lionguard Redoubt in Glenumbra. About to go on vacation for a week. I won’t be on Xbox at all and internet can’t be predicted.
2017-0423: It took about 2 more hours to finish jotting down notes from Unrest's "motifs" on their trader. I had enough time to my night to visit 2 more traders belonging to Empire Exchange and Saucy Felines, which, thankfully, had less than 4 pages each. LOL
2017-0422: Last night I spent some quality time looking at more than 5 pages of Motifs on Unrest's trader in Wayrest. I continued this morning and covered ANOTHER 5 pages. WOW!!! Talk about time consuming!!!! And I'm STILL not done with it! I'm about to log in and TRY to finish with it before midnight. I've just reached the 30k motifs on their list. I'm SURE there's another few pages to go. I spent this afternoon typing up what I have so far, and TOMORROW I will put my info on the website. I was going to do it tonight, but I don't want to waste time doing that when I could be spending that time gathering data. I also spent time updating the mat categories with info from Ancient Tree from 4/3/17.
2017-0415: Finished updating Sets, and Woodworking Blueprints (Home Sweet Home) with info from Ancient Tree.
2017-0413: Updated Sets with info from Ancient Tree ..... up to Swamp Raider (blue) before having to quit for the night due to eye strain. Will continue tomorrow.
2017-0410: Spent most of the night typing up the rest of Sets from Ancient Tree. I finally quit when it was done and I couldn't see anymore.
2017-0409: Spent a few hours typing up some info on Sets from Ancient Tree. It was a bit time consuming because of breaking it down into colors, traits, and formatting for the website to make it easy for people to understand and keep it from being too "busy" looking.
2017-0408: Uploaded info from Ancient Tree to Furnishings (not plans).
2017-0407: Updated price list with Motif, Provisioning, and Homestead info from Sudden Impulse and Ancient Tree. More to follow in the next couple of days including mats (as soon as I can spend quality time converting bulk prices to single) and especially Sets.
2017-0406: Typed up only half the notes from Sudden Impulse, gathered 4/4 because I wanted to get the Motifs and most of the Homestead Plans on the website ASAP. Still needs conversion from bulk to single prices.
2017-0405: Typed up most of the info from Ancient Tree, gathered on 4/3, except for Sets, which is an overwhelming amount and will take DAYS to type up.
2017-0327: Typed up some notes from 3 guilds from this past week. Calculated bulk prices to reflect single prices. Formatted it to transfer to website. Updated with info from BD Crowns Trading Co, and The Riverwood Traders, from 3/23/17.
2017-0322: Had some real life stuff going on, but I'm back. =) Updated Home Sweet Home with more plans info from Aldmeri Trade Union. Also added a bunch of furnishing ITEM prices from Aldmeri Trade Union, which allowed me to start the format coding for additional info. =) Updated the high end mats and Provisioning with info from OG Players from 2/15 (sorry I didn't get that on sooner). Added Aldmeri Trade Union and OG Players to the list of credits, and added Home Sweet Home to the list of contents on Intro page.
2017-0309: Created a new thread for the new Homestead stuff (new mats, plans, and furnishings). Added info from Elder Scrolls Finest. Also updated Provisioning with info from Elder Scrolls Finest. Also added info from Oblivion Syndicate, to Home Furnishings and Provisioning.
2017-0308: Typed up data collected on 3/7, from 2 guild traders. I focused on the new Homestead mats, plans, and SOME other important prices such as Psijiic Ambrosia stuff.
2017-0227: Added RECENT Motif info from Wincorp, Prisoners, InfiniteLove, OG Players and Secret Sauce from this past week. Updated Provisioning high end stuff with info from Prisoners. Updated Nirncrux (Trait mats) with info from Prisoners.
2017-0226: Right before midnight, after ESO crashed for the 2nd night in a row, I broke my hiatus to add motifs from Wincorp.
2017-0219: In the wee hours, gathered a LOT of data from Wincorp’s trader. Especially a TON of motifs! Typed and formatted Motif info.
2017-0218: Gathered data from Prisoners in Belkarth, Craglorn. In the evening, typed HALF of those notes. Still needs calculating. Need to take a break. Will log in the game to gather data from another trader or two.
2017-0217: Typed notes for Stormborn Wyverns, OG Players and InfiniteLove (all from 2/15/17).
2017-0216: Finished calculating single prices and finished adding all of Warriors Trading Co to website. Calculated half of notes into single prices for The Jokers (from 2/7/17). Updated Misc, Alch, Wood, and Clothing on website.
2017-0215: Calculated single prices for Warriors Trading Co and prepared notes to add to website.
2017-0214: Typed notes from Warriors Trading Co (from 2/9/17)
2017-0210: Typed and formatted Set info from The Jokers (from 2/7/17). Not uploaded yet.
2017-0209: Updated Motifs and a few high end items with info from Warriors Trading Co (from 2/9/17)
2017-0208: Updated Motifs and a few high end items with info from The Jokers (from 2/7/17)
2017-0203: Updated with "Personally Sold" data, and info from Kings Armory and Venerable Order of the Dr
2017-0202: Updated with info from Applesauce and Wicked Obsession
2017-0201: Updated with info from Wicked Obsession
2017-0119: Updated with info from Lords of Gallifrey, BAWs, and Old Man Meta. Removed Christmas clipart.